Courageous Leadership with Travis Yates

The Harsh Realities of the Texas Border Crisis with Hernando Arce

February 08, 2024 Travis Yates Episode 54
Courageous Leadership with Travis Yates
The Harsh Realities of the Texas Border Crisis with Hernando Arce
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Hernando Arce brings more than just a keen eye for detail to our latest discussion; he carries the weight of truth from the frontlines of Texas border towns. As a citizen journalist, Hernando offers an unfiltered glimpse into the immigration crisis, painting a picture of leadership missteps and the real-world consequences for communities grappling with demographic upheaval. From the perilous paths migrants tread to the cartels' merciless orchestration of human displacement,

Our conversation takes a deep and sometimes disquieting turn as we explore the strain on local resources and the government's handling of immigration. The personal freedoms and values that once drew Hernando to Texas now find themselves in the crosshairs of political decisions. We aren't afraid to tackle the hot-button issues, like the role of the Department of Justice in enforcing federal laws and the enigmatic silence of environmental advocates on the border's ecological impact. It's a no-holds-barred look at the politics of blame and the true human cost of policy inaction.

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Hernando Arce:

They tell where these illegals go. There's certain sectors that have certain demographics. California is getting the Chinese, arizona is getting the Middle Easterns that are paying money, big money, to get into our country. We're getting here in San Antonio. We're getting the poor of the poor, of illegals that came in through a train called the death train. They sleep on top of the train for five days. It literally drops you off at the border, literally, and from there they swim over to the Rio Grande and then surrender. So we're getting the poor of the poor. They average about $15,000 to $2,000 per person in terms of cost to cross this journey. That includes paying off the federal police in Mexico, the cartel food and lodge.

Intro/Outro:

Welcome to courageous leadership with Travis Yates, where leaders find the insights, advice and encouragement they need to lead courageously.

Travis Yates:

Welcome back to the show. I'm so honored that you've decided to spend a few minutes with us here today, and we're gonna go off the path a little bit when it comes to leadership although this is deeply about leadership, but we're gonna have a guest on. That is not law enforcement, he's not a first responder, but the work that he is doing to expose cowardice in leadership is unprecedented. On the show today is Hernando Arce. He's a citizen journalist on the southern border down in Texas and he's doing phenomenal work. You've got to follow him on Twitter. Just put his name in there Hernando Arce. I'll put the link in the description, but beyond that, you've got to hear directly from his mouth Hernando, how are you doing, sir?

Hernando Arce:

Hello Travis, I'm honored to be on your show. I'm doing well, thank you.

Travis Yates:

Well, we met on the LEO Roundtable Podcast. Chip had brought you on. I was on the show that day and, man, I was very impressed by what you were saying and what you represented and I just thought to myself law enforcement we understand what's going on at the border, especially the ones that are at the border, but I think the rest of the country we don't really understand why, where, how all this is happening. But you're down there at the border as a citizen journalist, which didn't used to exist, hernando, when we had actual journalists, but that is long gone, right. So, thank goodness, we have individuals like yourself that are doing the work that all of journalism ought to be doing. So I just want to ask you, before we get going, like how did you find yourself doing this? That's probably a pretty wide journey than what you thought you'd be doing years ago, is it not?

Hernando Arce:

Oh, absolutely. I don't do this for a living. I have a full-time job. So when all my clips that you see on my timeline are done in between my work and on my days off, just want to let your audience know that I do document, primarily two hours, two and a half hours from the border. I live in San Antonio, Texas, so I do travel to the border at times. Primarily it's what I'm documenting is when these illegal aliens have already entered our country and have been processed by ICE and are given those big yellow envelopes. They're sent by bus to my town at a migrant center that I'm calling the American Replacement Center, where they're welcomed for a few days before they're sent out to the interior Travis.

Travis Yates:

Well, Hernando, if you live down there probably quite a while and you saw this shift, kind of explain the way this was before the disaster. We're in now and kind of where you see it now and where it's liable to go if we keep going. I'd like to see the perspective of it, because this is a difference in the border. We've always talked about the border, we've always talked about the issues there, but it is different now and kind of explain that contrast.

Hernando Arce:

Well, I don't know how far you want me to go. I mean, this here is an invasion that the Biden regime started back in 2021 has broken so many records. When they opened up the center in San Antonio, it was July of 2022. So we're talking about one and a half years after the Biden regime took over, and we've never seen a center paid by taxpayer dollars, at $115,000 a month rent to the landlord, where they were welcoming illegals and then giving them all these services. Never have we ever seen that, and so I had to pull out my camera to start documenting this year crisis invasion of Travis, when Donald Trump was in office. You average about 600,000 illegals a year. We get that in two months now, to put that in perspective, so it's quadrupled the number of illegals, and so that's something to think about. So yes, travis, I'm documenting this from San Antonio.

Hernando Arce:

I've only been here 10 years, so I'm originally from New York City, and the reason I left New York City is because my neighborhood was taken over by illegal aliens and I didn't recognize my town anymore. It lost its soul. It lost its culture. That's why I moved to Texas, because of that rugged individualism that come and take it attitude that on your F-150 truck. Don't tread on me and I'm telling you to your public and they're mostly law enforcement and I support the law enforcement. They're treading on us already and they're giving you the middle finger while they tread on you and they're already taking it. They took it already.

Travis Yates:

That's what seems to be so amazing is in the past politicians there's no shortage of them making bad, horrible decisions for our country. We can go back since the beginning of our country to talk about that.

Travis Yates:

But there seems to be a shift where they're doing it right in front of your face, like they're not even hiding it right. They're doing it right in front of people. What do you think's going on there? Is it just because they own the news media? Maybe they own the elections, I don't know. They just because they seem so confident that this disaster is still gonna work out in their way. But you'd have to have no brain cells to look at this and go how's there not gonna be blowback on this? I mean, this is not political. American citizens are gonna suffer. They already have suffered from this disaster.

Hernando Arce:

Well, that's a great observation and unfortunately there are too many Americans that have fallen asleep. They're in a somber sleep and that's the job of us journalists, these independent journalists like myself, to put out the truth out there. But most Americans don't see because it hasn't reached the doorstep yet. But I guarantee you it's coming to your doorstep, but it's not coming to your front door. It's coming through your back door, just like the way the easy legal aliens entered. They entered through the back door, they cut the line and it's going to affect health care. It's going to affect education, your children, your school, these children that we don't know what kind of diseases they have. Unfortunately, it's going to be sitting next to your kid, so one way or another, it's coming to your back doorstep, travis.

Travis Yates:

And the scary part, hernando and I'm sure you've pondered this because you're doing this to expose and to hopefully correct, but there's going to be, there's a point in our turn. We may have met that because let's just say this stops tomorrow. America doesn't have the resources in law enforcement or governments to actually get rid of millions and millions of people here illegally. I mean. So as it continues, I mean I can't even fathom, based on the first three years, what continues in the next three years. I mean there's a point of no return to where.

Travis Yates:

I'm not trying to just make this seem crazy, but it doesn't take a lot to figure out economically that this country will implode Because countries have borders, countries have security. For a reason, you can only support so many people and you're already seeing American citizens being put on the street. You're seeing kids getting kicked out of their schools. You're seeing veterans sleeping on the streets. Meanwhile they're putting people here illegally inside apartments and hotels and feeding them and money. They're giving them a marked lamb down there in Arizona I mean they called him a liar for it, but he shows the receipts. They're giving them $5,000 credit cards and a plane ticket to wherever they want to go, but no American citizen gets this, and I don't want to just get too philosophical with you, hernando, but this just seems wild to me. What is the intent? I mean what is going on? I mean this one thing to have an open border, it's another thing to give everybody Christmas presents and welcome them with open arms so we can encourage everyone else to come.

Hernando Arce:

What do you think's behind all that? Well, there's a couple of statements you made there, so let me go to the beginning. In terms of deportation, removals of all these 10 to 15 million illegals I think the number is more around 15 million illegals. We count all four different sectors, because there's four sectors in the way they're coming in. They're just not coming in through the border Travis, they're coming in through the river. Yes, they're coming in through expired visas. No one talks about that. There's hundreds of thousands that are coming in that have stayed here when their visas expired. That's 45% of the population of illegals are expired visas. Then you have the third sector. Third sector is actually five countries that are designated for some type of United Nations dangerous city. I am yeah. They're coming in through planes. They're flying them in, for God's sake, hundreds of thousands per year. And then, of course, you have the ones that escaped. They weren't detected.

Hernando Arce:

So, to answer your first question, god willing Trump takes the office to White House this November. God willing, there's going to be deportation. It's going to be 30% that are going to self-deport. This is very important. Your audience knows this because I've interviewed many of these illegals and they've only been here 10 days. They really want to go back to their home. They're not happy here, as crazy as it sounds. Once they see that there is no welcoming act, that these Democrats lie to them, as we see now in cities like Chicago they will self-deport Because that $5,000 is going to go so far.

Hernando Arce:

Right For the record, I've seen those credit cards, because that's another misinformation we're getting. Now I want to be clear. My job is to educate the audience and my followers when I report from my San Antonio city. They've been here 10 days. They have not gotten any credit cards, and I spoke with dozens of them. The phones they get are to track them for their first court date, usually within six months. I've seen as far as six years, but that's the track they're supposed to turn in that phone once they get their first court date. By the way, that court date is not with a judge, it's with an ICE officer, a babysitter. So 30% self-deport, another 30% we're going to have to find them in the shadows of America and another 30% we will never find them. Never find them. That's my theory, that's my hypothesis, number one. That's so. I wanted to share that with your public.

Travis Yates:

Well, the 30% will self-deport. That makes sense to me. The 30% we're only going to find them when they get arrested or not, though your audience needs to understand that, like because that's the way it's been since I've been in law 30 years I've been in law enforcement and that's when they called the sanctuary city used to mean if we arrest you, we don't deport you. If we arrest you on a crime here, we don't deport you, and the majority of the country was not that, but larger cities were. So there's really never been a motive to go out and find them. There's no resources. But when they get arrested now here's why this is important that means those 30% are going to have to victimize somebody, an American citizen. More than likely they're going to have to get arrested. Then they'll get deported.

Travis Yates:

And you're right 30% that don't end up getting arrested or they get arrested in a sanctuary city or in front of a judge that does not feel the same way. They get to stay, but it will make lasting impact on the country, and I know there's a bunch of theories on why this has happened. I think if you were to, I mean, I can only imagine, because we're the only country on the planet that has this type of open border. I think Europe for a while had it and they've, of course they've suffered mildly from it. They're trying to reverse that. But there's a reason why you have borders because it is the fast, fast speed to destruction and the politicians have to know that. I mean, I know the theory is oh, they're trying to change the voting pool and they're trying to get more people in. They call it, you know, the Democrats themselves have called it the Great Replacement Theory and they'll say it's a racist term.

Travis Yates:

You or I say it, but that's actually the Democrats are saying it. They're on record as saying that's what this is. But I have to think it goes deeper, because to just get votes in return, you're impacting every facet of American life. And I want to get something straight before I keep going. It's very easy to hear me and Orlando talk and go oh, you hate immigrants, oh you hate this, oh you bigot, you racist. That that's far from the truth. This country is great because of the melting pot we have. You know you go to Japan or China, everybody looks the same Like. I love the fact that in America we have a bunch of different types of people. They all contribute in different ways. That's awesome, but they came here legally, hernando, for a reason, so sort of talk to us about why you think this is going on now and how this is going to even impact those people that have come here legally.

Hernando Arce:

Well, you know it all comes down to follow the chain here. It all starts with the United Nations, of course your audience should be aware of that. It's a global impact of migration. We signed well, the Biden regime signed into that program. Again, it started with Obama. Obama signed us into that program the last year of his term as administration. Trump got us out of that United Nations and Biden put us back. So if you want to follow the path, it all comes down to the United Nations and, as we're still in part of that pact, this here asylum refugees campaign will continue. So that's the first thing we need to get off that United Nations compact number one, and then you'll see this NGO stop funding us. We're funding the NGOs, but it's a lot of layers, travis, many, many layers of this here and it's been organized for many years, over 10, 15 years.

Hernando Arce:

Trump when he came into the office, he was a wrench into this campaign. He wasn't supposed to be elected Because my theory is, if Clinton was to come in for Hillary, she was going to start upping the illegal immigration. She wasn't elected and so they lost four years and that's why we're seeing this huge surge of millions and millions per year, because that was not the original plan. It was more of a stealth plan. You follow me, travis, so that's where we are here today and, yes, the NGOs are responsible. We've given billions and billions of dollars and the funny thing is, the left always say separation of church and state. Separation of church and state. This here illegal immigration campaign is orchestrated between church and state, travis.

Travis Yates:

Explain that a little bit to our audience.

Hernando Arce:

Well, uh, church meaning the non for profit organizations like the Catholic Charities USA, the Lutheran Charities and also the Jewish Charities. Uh, all of these charities are financing much of it.

Hernando Arce:

They're financing, but they're getting grants and contracts by you, the taxpayers, in the billions of dollars. I just put up a post today, this year, built in the Senate, on page 35, I believe, says that they will continue to pay these NGOs, non government organizations, $2.3 billion of our money, which we don't have because we're broke. We're broke, we have no money uh, to continue this invasion. These, these NGOs, are facilitating, along with law enforcement and I put law enforcement, san Antonio PD, on that list because at the center they're getting paid time and a half off duty officers of SAPD, san Antonio PD, that are in the direction of, under the direction of tech Catholic Charities of San Antonio, and so I got a problem with that. I've been arrested multiple times Hello, multiple times by law enforcement in my town for simply recording illegal aliens in a public facility, travis. So, yeah, I got a problem with that Big problem.

Travis Yates:

Well, you certainly should have a problem with it. That's how the government works, right, Like I can go into the public schools. Once the public schools, once they became a department of education and they started financing public schools where the public schools will follow the federal rules, or else Law enforcement's the same way. They take government grant money. When you take government grant money, you will follow what we say, or else and this is the same way, it's all you know, and obviously it goes deeper than the money. There's a whole I don't know who they are that's pulling the strings, but it certainly goes much, much deeper than probably we know. And, Hernando, you, have you talked to any border patrol agents and kind of gotten their opinions on this and what they see? Because I want my audience to understand this, the president was on TV today saying that this is all Trump's fault on the border. He's done all he could. Okay, First off, he reversed the executive order that Trump had in place. It didn't fix the border, but it was about one sixth of what it is today.

Travis Yates:

But there is a federal law that says you cannot come into the United States illegally. So it's really as simple as the president tells the head of the Department of Justice that runs law enforcement and federal government, we're going to start enforcing the law. It's really that simple. It doesn't take a bill, doesn't take legislation. That's all political. To try to blame other people and the weakness of any leader to try to blame others is really amazing to me, and I'm sure he'll get away with it with I don't know 30% of insane people in this country. But the rest of the people they have to understand because they remember what it was four years ago and now they know what it's like now. So it's not a big leap to see what's going on, but it's not hard to fix this. I mean, obviously you take these resources, but there's a federal law right now and in fact I'll say I'll take you one deeper, Hernando, if these liberal politicians really cared about immigrants and really wanted an open border under Obama they own both houses, they control the entire federal government, ie they control the entire decision making of the United States of America they could have gotten rid of the law. They could have just written the law out of the books to make it completely legal, open it up, but they didn't do that.

Travis Yates:

This was done like you said, and I think your theory is right. I think they've accelerated this because Trump scared them, because he came in and he wasn't them. I want to listen. I know Trump triggers people and if you get triggered by a name you're an idiot. But anyway, digress. But they don't hate Donald Trump because of politics, because he's not really a Republican. He's really a centric type of guy. But they hate him because you got to remember anyone that falls for this Donald Trump hatred is funny because before he ran for president against Hillary Clinton, he was one of the most popular icons in the world and nobody had anything bad to say about him. And so all of a sudden, we're supposed to believe that he's this crazy, racist white supremacist today who runs for president. Of course that's politics, but they don't hate him because of politics. They don't even hate him because of policies. They hate him because he's not them.

Hernando Arce:

Right, yes and yes. So to answer your question regarding Biden and Trump administration, it's black and white. I mean, it's day and night. Trump had the lowest illegal immigration coming into our country with 40 years going back 40 years Unbelievable. His policies work. You know the title 42.

Travis Yates:

And that was without the wall. I mean he still didn't get to do what he wanted to do.

Hernando Arce:

Right and going back. I'm not going to let the Republicans off the hook, because you mentioned the Democrats really want to change the law?

Hernando Arce:

Yeah, they could have changed the law. Hello, we had the Republican House in Congress for the first two years of Trump administration. They didn't repeal Obamacare no, they did not, they didn't. They didn't fund the wall no, they did not. So we got the bunch of these rhinos right now, the Senate bill that's sitting in the Senate, my, my senator, my US senator, mr Cornyn, cornyn, cornyn. He has not voted no yet, so he's part of the problem. My own senator, for God's sakes, travis.

Travis Yates:

Yeah, I mean, I think people that have a brain they know these are all the same individuals. They may have an R or D, but there's that politicians keep their job by keep because they keep talking about problems, and which the only way to keep talking about problems is you don't solve problems, and they had. I don't care if you don't like his mean tweets. You cannot argue that Donald Trump, coming in with a business background, decided to start having solutions and there's a whole list of things and obviously his policies worked because he came from a business mindset and they were solution based versus I'm just going to talk about it, not really do anything. That's the old joke from politicians. Right, they talk about it, they never do anything. Well, he's not a career politician, so he's different. That's why they really hate him. And I wanted to talk briefly with you about the people you're seeing coming in. I know you're most people you talk to in San Antonio, but this narrative, that is, all these families fleeing their country what are you seeing?

Hernando Arce:

Well, it's funny. You said it because the city of San Antonio has a public website. It's called the migration dashboard, but you can just Google it San Antonio migration dashboard. It gives you the demographics of every illegal that's entered my city and where they're coming from. So it's there. I mean, I would think it's accurate information. It's averaging a thousand illegals a day coming into my city, a thousand at the height.

Travis Yates:

That's just your city. That's just your city.

Hernando Arce:

Yeah, coming from different border sectors. Demographic wise. To answer your question, 45% goes to 50% are from Venezuela. The other are from South America, central America, haiti and Cubans coming into my city. That's demographics, just so your audience understands. The cartel runs the show. They tell where these illegals go. There's certain sectors that have certain demographics. California is getting the Chinese, arizona is getting the Middle Easterns that are paying money, big money, to get into our country.

Hernando Arce:

We're getting here in San Antonio. We're getting the poor of the poor, of illegals that came in through a train called the death train. They sleep on top of the train for five days. It literally drops you off at the border, literally Travis, and then from there they swim over to the Rio Grande and then surrender. So we're getting the poor of the poor. They average about $15,000 to $2,000 per person in terms of costs to cross this journey. That includes paying off the federal police in Mexico. The cartel food and lodge. They usually come here and they don't have a plan B like okay, you're here, now what? They don't have any money to take to fly into the interior for airline tickets. That's where the NGOs come in. The NGOs spend about an average $100,000 a week paying for airline tickets and you said that again, $100,000 per week. This NGO just in San Antonio, and we have. I have a text message to God. I have the receipts. I have the receipts from the organizers inside that text, that to someone else in the city. So that's what happens. You're tax dollars after two weeks of being there. These illegals have to get a free pass inside this, also our airline or two that are doing it incognito in the dark of night.

Hernando Arce:

This theory, the invasion is done at nighttime. So this to answer your question yeah, we're getting mostly Hispanics. They're not here for asylum, asylum, refugee because I've interviewed in an accident. Are you here for a better future, which is what they tell me, economic reasons, or are you here because you're scared of your country killing you? And they all tell me I'm here for work. Now, when I tell them at the end of that interview, but work doesn't qualify refugee, asylum, and then they quickly change their story and say, yeah, but I was attacked by my government, my, I'm scared of my government. So they've been already coached on what to say, travis.

Travis Yates:

Yeah, man, it is. It's really mind-blowing, and part of, I think, the issue with Americans not waking up is is they've almost been Desensitized, right? You see these pictures of these migrant Marches to the border of hundreds of thousands of people, and it almost it's not even believable, and of course that has to be orchestrated. The hundreds of thousands people don't just get in a line and walk towards the border. That's. That is insane to me. What do you know anything about that part of what we're? What's going on?

Hernando Arce:

Red Cross, doctors without borders oh, I am. Organization immigration migrants. There are dozens of NGOs that are being paid by the United Nations and by American tax dollars, all the way found to Columbia and Ecuador. They are all given maps. This is a well orchestrated, well organized assembly line of Illegals to, to replace the American citizen. And it's not just America, travis. This is happening in the UK, italy, in France. This is a way to, to, to transform the Western civilization and, yes, this.

Hernando Arce:

These are these globalists that that don't believe in borders. These are evil people and they all do it under the guise of faith-based organizations and it's it's really a disgusted to see what's happened. And you know, we got to get out of the United Nations pack. That's got to be the first thing Donald Trump does January 22nd In the White House. Once they does that, then we could start closing off and stop funding these illegals, these NGOs. They're doing the dirty work for the, for the, for the, and we haven't even talking about the children yet. But God, save these hundreds of thousands of children that are missing.

Hernando Arce:

Travis, this is, this is something we've never seen, and and McCallan sections is the mecca of the world the sex trafficking children as we speak right now, over 11,000 children every day are held by the government Kidnap, held hostage. He's the unaccompanied children that entered our country every day now. The average Unaccompanied child, yes, is 16 17 years old. About 50% of them are. But you got as small as five year olds and an infants, and I know you know my audience will. How does an infant walk you to cross the border? It's done with the cartel.

Hernando Arce:

They. They were orchestrated it so that a five year old is dropped off 100 yards from the border and just walks in by an unaccompanied. We have something tagged on his jacket saying this person needs to go to XYZ person who's a sponsor, who's who's actually a sex slave or indenture servitude. This happens every day and the officer refugee resettlement, which is part of the HHS and and homeland security, is the one place the department has organized in this and they've lost hundreds of thousands of children as we speak today. So we do this for the children. I do this for the children mostly. You know, yes, there are military age men that have come and they have Nefarious reasons to be in here, but the children, they're all innocent and I don't care what country this children come from. They need to be sent back to their home Travis.

Travis Yates:

Yeah, if you're just listening to us, we're talking to Hernando RC. He's a citizen journalist and the tales he's weaving here, folks, is Unbelievable. I mean, this is someone that is seeing what's going on two hours away from the borders. You could imagine what's going on at the border and I don't. We got this on and oh, but have you had a chance to talk to any border patrol agents and get their opinion on some?

Hernando Arce:

of this Well being on two hours on the border. I don't need too many border patrols, but you know, when I did go down to the border, Nine out of ten won't talk to me on camera, so it's a policy you know of course I think.

Travis Yates:

Of course they're not going to. Of course it's their policy. But that's how cowards keep this going. They don't let people talk to anybody.

Hernando Arce:

Yeah, it's border patrol National Guard, the city of Eagle Pass. They won't talk on camera. There was one whistleblower that came out. He was on the James O'Keefe show and he restarted to me Privately. He'd be on me and he really wanted to come out in uniform and I try to. I'm trying to set him up with Alex Jones, so, but he went MIA on me. I think he got scared or something. I don't know if he's listening. Please reach back out to me, because he was gonna come out and and put his job on the line. He was gonna come out in uniform in those pickle they call them pickle uniforms but the color and and and just, just, you know, just tell them, tell the public what it's really happening and but he might have gotten second thoughts, I don't know, travis.

Travis Yates:

So we talked about people not being awakened, right, I think, and I think you're right. I think most Americans don't understand it, or if they see it, they don't hardly believe it. They everybody, every, everything's politics. So if they hear a story, they think it's the Republicans, or they see this, they think they're attacking this group or that group. This is not political. This is gonna impact every American red, white, blue, republican, democrat, you name it. Is there an event or is there something that you think could happen that could actually wake the masses up?

Hernando Arce:

Well, we just had an event last weekend. This weekend was called the Truckers Convoy. It was accessible. Convoy was the first one.

Travis Yates:

Thousands of people showed up between Eagle Pass, Arizona and and no one in mainstream media covered it, what nobody even really knows about it.

Hernando Arce:

Not only did mainstream media cover it, but major conservative networks weren't even there, it was maybe four or five. Lfatv I'm affiliated with the Magic Correspondent Reporter. We were there reporting and just five miles from that convoy and five miles from Shelby Park where 15 governors met Sunday. Five miles, I was recording live. Five miles illegal coming in through our border and hotspots where they come with they draw their trash and their clothing. It's up on my timeline.

Travis Yates:

Yeah, I just saw that you wanna see this stuff. Folks Go to Twitter at her, not hernandoarse. I'm gonna spell it because I'm probably butchering your name horribly sir, I got a minor in Spanish in college, but that's been 30 plus years ago. It's not helped me at all, right now. So it's at. H-e-r-n-a-n-d-o-a-r-c-e. I'll put that link in the show notes. But yeah, you're giving people a firsthand view of that. I saw the photograph of all that stuff COVID stuff, books, you name it. Pretty crazy.

Hernando Arce:

Condoms, panties, tampons and the less always say that they care about the environment. Where are they now? Where is that Greta lady, that Greta girl? She's nowhere to be found at the border. That where are?

Travis Yates:

Greta wouldn't last a minute down there, Hernando, she would not last long.

Hernando Arce:

Yeah, they're hypocritical. The Biden regime is destroying our environment with this invasion, Not only in the Eagle Pass South border, but look at Panama. The rivers in Panama are contaminated, for God's sake. So they're a bunch of hypocrites. Everything they touch they destroy. They destroy Obama, they destroy our healthcare, they destroy our immigration, they destroy traditional system. Anything the left touches, they destroy Travis.

Travis Yates:

I have to think, hernando, I have to think that I think everyone knows where you're coming from politically, okay. Yeah, were you always that way, or did you finally just see enough to go? Uh-uh, I gotta put myself out there, I gotta be down with this. Just kind of tell us about that, because I have to think, like many of us, you were probably not this strong will conservative a few years back. What caused that?

Hernando Arce:

Well, they also destroyed the election system, by the way. I forgot that one.

Travis Yates:

Listen, I'm gonna Well, hold on, let me stop you right here, because everybody gets freaked out about the election system, and this is all I'm gonna say about the election system. When I was a kid Hernando which was I'm 52, so that's a while back we had very limited technology. We had no technology when it come to elections. You had to go to election day and vote on a piece of paper and a pencil, and you know what's pretty amazing Is, up until a few elections ago, we always knew who won elections on the night of the election.

Travis Yates:

And then all of a sudden we implement technology and now we never know who wins an election on the night of the election. So that's all. I'm gonna say about it, because if you do not think that's weird, you're an idiot. You're just a complete idiot. If you don't think that's weird, that's extremely weird.

Travis Yates:

But people and here's what I say about when people get upset about when you talk about it, that means you're over the target, like if I ran for election or if my you know, my party won an election and people said, oh, there's something wrong with the election. You know what I would say when there was anything wrong Look through every rock, go through every. Do all your investigations. Look all you want, there's nothing wrong. But when they go the opposite and threaten to throw you in jail for looking, now you know you're over the target.

Hernando Arce:

Sure, I know about going to jail because I was in jail for documenting illegal, so I know how it feels to be sent to the Gulag and shackled for 26 hours or simply filming at a public airport. But you know, to answer your question, I come from a working class blue collar neighborhood in New York city. My mom drove a yellow cab, raised seven children. She came here legally from Columbia and they went to Goddler in food stamps. I'm the only conservative out of seven children. It's in my blood. I was born this way and I think every American should be a part-time citizen journalist. I think every American should do that because if you don't practice your first amendment right, which has four or five different itemized there, then you're gonna lose them. And I'm staying in this arena. I'm not going anywhere. I'm gonna. If they won a war with them, they got a war with me because I'm not going anywhere.

Travis Yates:

Well, and the description of your family and your mom. And that's the American dream, Fernando. That's hero status, right? Someone that comes here legally, they work their tail off, they raise their family. That's what we should love about America.

Travis Yates:

But that's being completely butchered by the system we have today and it can't sustain. We know that. That's why I think I'm talking to you, because of that. I mean, when you look around and you take the politics out of it, take the bias out of it on paper, we're a generation away from not even existing at any level other than please, please, give me food in a car so I can do something, because I can't do it on my own. I mean, we're not far away from that, because this has accelerated at a pretty mighty rate and I still I don't know if I can ever wrap my head around a so-called American politician that wants to destroy America. But that's exactly what's happening here, because this seems to be completely short-sighted.

Travis Yates:

Yes, or could there be a political gain temporarily? I don't see it. I don't see it. It's a pretty big leap to turn all those millions of people into people that vote for you. The Hispanic vote right now is not voting Democratic, they're voting Republican in the majority when you look at the polling. So there's no guarantee they're even gonna vote for you. So I don't even understand why they're going down this path to destroy the fabric of the country. I can't even explain it, to be honest with you, other than the fact that there's this sort of Trump syndrome. To whatever he says, we do the opposite, no matter what right. If Donald Trump said the sky was blue, social media would kick you off if you agree with him right.

Travis Yates:

It's just the way it is right now, Right.

Hernando Arce:

Well, I see it clear as day. I know what's going on. My eyes are wide open. This is a battle between good and evil, the battle between Marxism and capitalism. I know capitalism has a bad word lately, but capitalism has taken more people out of poverty than any other system in the world in the history of mankind. So I see clearly what this is and we gotta take a side. Every American is watching. It's gotta take a side. There's no more sitting back in your lazy chair eating your Chipotle burrito. Those days are gone. If we got this here to get it right this year, we don't. I don't think we're gonna ever see our country again.

Hernando Arce:

If a Democratic gets back in the White House, you're gonna see this slow surge that we're experiencing now, that down to 5,000 a day illegals. It's gonna go back up to 15,000 a day after November, the 7th of this year. So this is unintentionally. They slowing down the surge. They closed the spigot at the border. I don't know if your audience is aware of this. This was done because between the Mexican government and the Biden regime back in December. So this is all planned. You need to take sides and you need to prepare because Now for a bit, of Democratic gets in the White House, it's gonna go. It's gonna open this big, it's gonna open again. And this is the clower piven strategy clower pivot. You know the audience is not aware of that. Google it. This is done on purpose to, to to over one the systems, because Milton Friedman, a great economist, said can I have open borders and a welfare system of one trillion dollars a year at the same time?

Travis Yates:

Yeah, and I want I want people to understand this too is is, I think, the media who is our biggest Enemy, because whenever you have a democracy with First Amendment rights, we rely on the news media and open media to hold power Accountable, and I think for many years they did that. They were always sort of biased one way, but they hey, they, they held power accountable through the reporting. Well, that's, that's over with. So there, that's sort of the Accountability factor that every democracy needs. So the day this country ceased to exist, I blame the news media, because with a news media, biden doesn't get away with this. With the news media, this doesn't happen because they're holding people accountable, and I want people to understand this is not a complicated issue. This is all about leadership and making the right decisions.

Travis Yates:

I'll just give you I'm a simple guy, but I'll give you a couple of decisions right now. I e you fund the board, you fund the border wall, you fund border patrol. You actually enforce the law. And then, number two, you mitigate it by telling the Mexican government, because about 50% of all money that illegal immigrants make from Mexico I'll speak of Mexico is going back into that country through wire transfers because they're supporting their family in Mexico. So you tell Mexico because the other way their economy is being helped by this because that money's flowing back into their country. So you simply tell Mexico that we're going to put a 25 percent or 30 percent tax on every dollar that comes back to your country. And guess what tends to happen? The Mexican government will now get involved and try to help as well.

Hernando Arce:

Yeah, that's. You're talking about remittance back to other foreign countries. Yeah, no countries. I heard the number was somewhere around six hundred billion dollars a year of Travis. Yeah, a report just came out. So you know, I'm in the, I'm in the team where you know we don't even want them to be here in order to be remittance back to the country. So it all starts with. We start with self deportation, which happened during the the Eisenhower administration in 1959, and he could be a, but this is times 20, 20% of what happened that 60 years ago. But we will see that when Trump takes the office. And you're right, it's not about politics, is about national security. But you know the left doesn't understand that, because being a liberal is a mental disorder. Basically, you can't argue with them. It's a mental disorder, travis.

Travis Yates:

I want to. I want to give you a chance to answer this, hernando, which is you probably get plenty of Of backlash right and what you're doing, because people can't debate the actual issue. They just want to call you names, people that would say hey, hernando, you hate People that's coming from other countries that are suffering. You hate little kids. You hate families trying to have a better life. How would you answer it?

Hernando Arce:

Well, you know, I'm a minority. I'm not Hispanic American, I don't even think of myself as a minority because myself as an American. But to answer your question, first of all, this year migration invasion is not about race, because there's a hundred and sixty Countries that are coming in all sakes and colors and sizes are coming in. So you know, that's one way to answer it, number one. Number two we, and we legally. Legally. America's the number one country in the world by numbers on how many legal migrants come into our country. Over a million of a Visa, green card holders are processed every year in America. That's more than any country in the world combined, Travis.

Hernando Arce:

So don't come telling me that I'm a racist or a big or homophobic, whatever you know, xenophobic, because we are very generous, and that's the problem we are. We have is that we're too generous, in my opinion. What I'm calling for is a moratorium on all migration until we know who's here. I like to see a five year moratorium on any and all migration in the next administration. But do we know who get a handle? Who is here, who's not here? Because, remember, as I began this interview with me, travis, over 42% of illegal aliens did not come through the Rio Grande. They came in through a plane and a visa Okay, a tourist visa, a work visa, a student visa, just like those terrorists at 9-11. A Number of them came through expired visas, and don't even get me started with terrorists right now, but that's how I would answer that question.

Travis Yates:

Yeah, I can't thank you enough for being here. I want to kind of end on a more of a personal question, because I Can't imagine and you've lined this out perfectly you see this clearly, you see this better than anybody I know. Even in people that should know better, there has to be, you know, I kind of attribute. You look at Bonhoeffer during Hitler days, christian pastor in Germany, and he saw it. He saw what was happening, but he, his own churches and his own citizens Couldn't see it. No matter what he did, they ended up killing Bonhoeffer. Do you feel? In a sense I'm not trying to compare this to Bonhoeffer or Germany, but in a sense it's the same way because here you are, you see it right in front of you, you see clearly what's happening, you see the steps they're taken to destroy the country. You're screaming from the highest rooftops of X or Twitter and everybody else that will talk to you, and You're not seeing a whole lot of change. How do you deal with that kind of frustration?

Hernando Arce:

Well, Bonhoeffer made a very famous quote. He said something along the lines of Not acting is acting, being silent is speaking. I'm paraphrasing what he said, but he was a great man and unfortunately died months before the war ended. But, yes, and that's a, that's a great way to end this, this here interview, because you know, you, for all, every American that said standing by the sidelines and not acting, or calling your congressman or doing something, proactive American citizens, same on you, man. Yeah, and so not acting is acting, travis.

Travis Yates:

Powerful stuff. Hernando. I cannot thank you enough. Taking the time out of the day, I mess with your schedule a little bit because I had to reschedule today. Man, I cannot thank you enough for what you're doing on behalf of myself and law enforcement. Thank you, you're. You're speaking up to where so many of us can't because, as you already said, we're under policies where we can't speak up. Man, I'm very grateful for you. God bless you and thank you so much for being here.

Hernando Arce:

There's been an honor, Travis Hope, to be back in your show. I remember I do this with God and country.

Travis Yates:

And if you're listening, I'm going to put Hernando's links in the show description. He he is a citizen journalist making no money, but we want to support him. I'm going to show you a way to do that. Please help him out. We need more of him and encourage others to do so. Thank you for being here and just remember, lead on and stay courageous.

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